Paris Bishop: “If the Church can find a place in 21st-century society, it will only be if Christians find a way of intervening in the life of society, if they genuinely take responsibility”

October 5, 2017

“We cannot completely depend on a limited number of priests.  The fruitfulness and the visibility of the Church cannot be reduced solely to their activity or else we will be heading straight into a wall! What counts is the capacity of the priest to coordinate, stimulate, lead and offer spiritual nourishment, which will enable Christians to take initiatives and to carry them out.”

” What will change society is not the declarations of the archbishop of Paris but the way in which Christians live out the Gospel in their choices and bear witness to these.”

On the Pope and concerns about relativism:

Cardinal A V-T: The pope simply explains the importance of taking into account the situations that exist. We should not forget that he is a Jesuit and that he looks at reality with the dynamism of spiritual conversion found in the exercises of St Ignatius.

He starts by listening to what people are saying and doing. Then he carries out spiritual discernment to weigh that up before the Lord.

If we simply interpret Pope Francis’ decisions from an organizational point of view, we won’t understand anything.

To understand the pope, we need to place ourselves in the field of spiritual discernment.

The issue for him is that the greatest number of people make progress in following Christ and that each one makes their own decision. No one can avoid this issue of spiritual conversion. We may have canonical provisions and rules but the freedom of people is important in their conversion.

Regarding the universal Church, what do you feel about the resistance of some Catholics to Pope Francis?

Cardinal A V-T: On one hand, there is institutional resistance against his desire for structural reform, which is a classical phenomenon that emerges whenever one wants to change the practices of an organization.

Also in La Croix…By Christa Pongratz-Lippitt, Germany, October 5, 2017, La Croix

Bishop-elect Herman Glettler / Caritas Steiermark

The newly appointed head of the Austrian Diocese of Innsbruck, Bishop-elect Herman Glettler, has surprised people by coming out in support of the ordination of women to the diaconate.

He has also suggested that it’s not too far-fetched to think that women may even be admitted to the priesthood in the future.

The 52-year-old priest, in a series of interviews following his September 27th appointment, further said he is also in favor of allowing married men to become priests and divorced and remarried Catholics to receive communion.

Not only have these comments raised eyebrows, but so has the fact that Fr Glettler is not from the federal state of Tyrol in Western Austria where Innsbruck is the capital. Instead, he’s from the southeastern part of the country and a priest of the Diocese of Graz, as well as a member of the Emmanuel Community.

“Rome decides against Tyrol,” said the headline in the Tiroler Tageszeitung (TT), the first media outlet in the country to break the news of Glettler’s appointment.

It marks the third consecutive time, dating back to 1997, that a non-Tyrolese cleric has been chosen to head the diocese, which had been without a bishop for nearly two years.

The TT said the delay in filling the vacancy was due to “fierce disputes” between Pope Francis and the Congregation for Bishops. Without giving any further details, it said Rome had “once again decided against the suggestions made by the local church and the diocesan bodies”.

“It will never be possible completely to clear up the mystery of who blocked whom,” wrote Dieter Neuwirth, religious correspondent for the Austrian daily Die Presse.

He claimed it was a “well-known fact” that the papal nuncio in Austria, Archbishop Stephan Zurbriggen, did not get on with the prefect of the Congregation for Bishops, Cardinal Marc Ouellet. “They are anything but friends,” Neuwirth asserted.

It was no surprise, then, that Bishop-elect Glettler was asked at the opening press conference whether he thought the procedure for appointing bishops was adequate.

“It urgently needs rethinking,” he said without hesitation.

“I don’t want to sound precocious. The bishops in the Congregation for Bishops are all very experienced. But I see an urgent need for change,” he continued.

“Every bishop has the duty to name three possible successors. That is sometimes thrown overboard. Nontransparent interventions are tedious and also harmful for those concerned,” the bishop-elect said candidly.

“A Tyrolese Franciscan once told me, ‘In the final instance, once can always presume that the Holy Spirit is at work behind these human decisions, but it’s best not to watch the Holy Spirit at work in such cases as this tends to make one’s head swim’,” Glettler said, quoting the friar.

He said he understands people might be irritated and frustrated by an outsider being chosen for Innsbruck.  “We must allow a time for mourning. And then we must ponder over why the procedure was delayed in such a peculiar way,” he said.

At the opening media conference, he was asked why he thought Pope Francis named him to be bishop.

“Perhaps because I’m unconventional enough, ham-fisted enough and astute enough for him?” he said with a smile.

Glettler signaled his self-described unconventionality at a brief prayer service with the baptized faithful in Innsbruck’s cathedral before the briefing got underway. He invited those present to gather closely around him and asked them to lay their hands on him in prayer.

The pope’s choice may also reflect Fr Glettler’s work with immigrants. In the year 2000, he began welcoming African Catholics in his parish in the Archdiocese of Graz. It is now home to a large and vibrant English-speaking community that celebrates Mass there every week accompanied by West African music.

In the days since his appointment to Innsbruck, the bishop-elect has given a series of interviews to Austrian media. And he’s not shied away from responding to some the hot-button issues in the Church today.

For instance, he said he “would be very glad” if the papal study commission on the female diaconate in the early Church were to arrive at “positive decision relatively soon” so that women could be ordained deacons.

“That would be a wonderful and most important step,” he said, adding that it was not “utopian” to hope that women would one day even be ordained priests in the Catholic Church.

“Structural changes and concrete measures to relieve priests are called for,” Glettler said. He said that included the ordination of married men of proven virtue (viri probati), although he warned against abolishing voluntary celibacy.

“On the face of it, celibacy is an idiotic sacrifice, but viewed from the inside, if it is nourished by a spiritual source, it is madness for Jesus’ Christ’s sake,” the bishop-elect said.

He added that he would continue to do his best to convince young people that celibacy of this sort is a “fascinating lifestyle”. On other issues, Glettler said he is “very” much in favor of allowing divorced and remarried Catholics receive the sacraments.

“From the Gospel point of view it makes a great deal of sense,” he said.

As far as relations with Islam are concerned, Innsbruck’s new pastor said he’s in favor of being “welcoming, but also wise”. While rejecting Salafist political Islam as “dangerous”, he said he respects the majority of Muslims.

“The main thing is dialogue, dialogue, and more dialogue,” he insisted.
Bishop-elect Glettler was asked which of Pope Francis’ impulses had most surprised him and which he wanted to take up.

“Pope Francis is a critical conscience for the world public, a hugely unifying figure,” he began.

“As a newly appointed bishop, I want to go on learning from him. The way he listens to people to see what goes on in their hearts is a tremendous gift,” he said.

“What he says is so alive and refreshing as it is not theoretical. I hope that my new Diocese of Innsbruck will accompany me in continuing to learn from him.”

Fr Glettler is scheduled to be ordained to the episcopacy on December 2nd in Innsbruck’s cathedral.

In another article in LaCroix, today:

In his book, Ndjimbi-Tshiende says a weakening of faith leads to an increase in hatred. How does he judge right-wing populists, who claim the West is Christian West but who take against migrants?

“If there are Christians among them, they do not know what their faith consists of,” he says.

The painful episode led him to ponder his own faith but also “the way the Church is restructuring itself”.

“What if God were a woman? What if the Church became poor again?” are questions raised in his book.

Ndjimbi-Tshiende also discusses the issues of Holy Communion for remarried divorced people and the celibacy of priests.

“Jesus did not impose celibacy on his apostles, his behavior was liberal. The Church has therefore placed herself above Jesus, has lacked humility and even fidelity to him,” he said, aware that his book and his positions will undoubtedly cause a stir in Germany.